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Sunday, September 04, 2005

YOU CAN'T SPIN THIS!!!!!

Mr. Bush you have failed the American people!

RESIGN!!!

Posted by The Bastard at 06:17 PM in Current Affairs | Permalink

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There will be no resignation. There will be no apologies. The democrats in Louisiana will take the blame for the president's inaction, and life will go on as before. Once they figure out how to restore the gasoline supply, the problem will just disappear from their beautiful minds.

Posted by: tunesmith | Sep 4, 2005 8:27:13 PM

Do you want to know why no one is coming to help those poor people? Because you are poor, look at how the conservatives leaders treat the poor people. The conservatives view the poor people as a strain on government services. Why should the conservatives who run the country help them? In the conservatives eyes if the poor people die in this country the less strain on government services.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 4, 2005 8:31:16 PM

If he doesn't resign then we need to pressure Congress for an impeachment. This has threatened the security of our nation.

Posted by: Martin | Sep 4, 2005 9:25:35 PM

Here's my libertarian Republican spin: This guy's a wuss. Big government turned him and the local government of New Orleans into wusses. "Save me! Save me!" And when Big Daddy Government doesn't come to save them, they cry while people die. How about this: Why don't we eliminate FEMA and return the savings to the states, who can respond to and pay for their own disasters? Note that the guy in the interview noted that WalMart responded much faster-- there may be a clue in there somewhere for you Big Government Lovers

Oh, and asking the President to resign is political grandstanding. We don't know half the facts yet, people!

http://gopliberty.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Kris | Sep 4, 2005 9:32:06 PM

I've never seen big Government like Georgie Boy's. Homeland Security got piles of money and turned into a big bloated pile of inefficiency. All on Georgie Boy'sm watch. Big to-do about about not signing a stuffed transportation bill, but the big ceremony for the pork fest came to pass, on Georgie Boy's desk.

I've never seen such utter crap rationalization regarding the squandering of the public's dollar as I have in the last 5 years. Maybe you don't care about how you're hard earned money is spent, but I do.

As for your idea of returning the money to the states, that oughta screw some red state over royally, as the income vs. risk ratios wouldn't support the cost of calamity. Bring it, baby. We'll take those dixiecrats back as fast as you can burn their butts and drive them away.

Posted by: Jet | Sep 4, 2005 10:05:27 PM

We know, for a fact, that the information about what would happen to New Orleans were it hit by a major hurricane has been circulating for years. We know that Bush had funding for a program to rebuild the levees cut in order to help fund his idiotic failure of a war. Putting two and two together, we know that Bush put his best interests (and the interests of his friends) in front of the best interest of the country. He had the authority to send in the National Guard but did not. From where I sit, each death should be on his head.

But I guess that's political grandstanding, too, hunh?

Posted by: Brad | Sep 4, 2005 11:52:14 PM

And, Kris, it sure is funny that he's crying on television, isn't it? I mean, he's only losing friends and loved ones who should have been rescued because Bush and his whole crew is incompetent. Come on, get over it, loser!

Posted by: Brad | Sep 4, 2005 11:54:44 PM

Bush is the master of disaster, 9/11 2800+ dead, Iraq war 1800+ dead, Katrina as of now 53 dead.

Posted by: john | Sep 5, 2005 12:14:54 AM

Kris don't give me that bullshit or anyone else that bull shit for that matter that is the same head up your as conservative ideology that got the country into this mess. its a threat to our national security for chist's sake. Cutting and privatizing funding always creates more need and it denies resouces to those in need. you know New Orleans asked for 250 million they got 4 million. Every fucking conservative idiological flaw is neatly packed into this mess from global warming to gun control to cutting so called social programs to the war in iraq to energy policy all the way down to education even. Has any one given any thought as to how teachers are supposed to teach in Texas with over crowded class rooms and the no child left behind act sucking out the needed funds? Give me a fucking break the right wing social experiment is over and it has ended in a costly disaster and anarchy.

If you don't think this is a matter of national security than think again because we have just told every othe friggin nation and terrorist on the planet that America can not cope with real disaster. You know I'm sorry but 9/11 was a fucking cake walk by comparison and there wasn't so much for FEMA to cope with then because really we are talking about a few city blocks and 3-5 thousand people who where killed in an instant not the slow death of up to 20 times that amount in a sunken city this is a thousand time crueler and our governments failure for years leading up to this are directly responsible so don't blame it on states rights. The time of the right wing nuts and there social experiment is over we are not going to take it never did and never will. You guys are not getting off on this one the nation will see to it. Just wait three weeks when everything starts costing twice as much and tell me what you think about it then.

Posted by: Billion Year Old Carbon | Sep 5, 2005 12:25:15 AM

And here's another thought you dolt how the hell can the city save its self when everything in it is destroyed Do that have a fleet of chinooks to air lift themselves out? Do they amphibious vehichles? Do they have cops with AR15s and enough to take on maurading bands of crack head thugs in withdrawl? You ve seen the god damn photo's they don't have shit and any shit they did have is some where in Iraq right now fighting a war that was based on a fucking lie to begin with

Posted by: Billion Year Old Carbon | Sep 5, 2005 12:32:57 AM

It is of course significant that homeland security and FEMA are headed by incompetents. Homeland Securities first director left to make zillions off of the spoils of IRAQ so to speak and it is factual that there is nothing to be made of the spoils of this disaster at home, part of the reason for non or slow action.
It is true the world is looking at us in amazement and are appalled and that is the fault of the federal government my friends. Still...

Calm down, this hardly does any good and is an effort in futility.

Can we not reasonably and calmly find a way to get the president impeaches without all this yelling?

Posted by: cooper | Sep 5, 2005 12:54:23 AM

Give in to your anger, BYOC. Feel the power of the dark side!

Seriously, though. This Kris guy's a fucking douche. It's sad that the Republicans are turning living and dying into a partisan issue. But, apparently, they have to support their fuckwad leader no matter what he ruins.

And I don't know WHERE the number 53 came from, John, but that's not even close, hell, it's not even a start.

Posted by: Brad | Sep 5, 2005 12:55:32 AM

Sometimes you just get mad, Cooper. Understandable when someone decides it's okay to let people die for partisan reasons.

And, I'm sorry, but Bush will not be impeached, especially considering the Republicans and their cronies own the major news outlets. Unless something REAL drastic happens in 2006, of course. If the Democrats sweep the elections, okay, maybe. But that won't happen.

Posted by: Brad | Sep 5, 2005 12:59:20 AM

LOL the ignorance is staggering.

How could the city save itself when it was underwater? Simple. No Nuts Nagin could've EVACUATED the city with its own plan

http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26]

instead of leaving the buses to end up underwater. But then he couldn't have gone on TV screaming about needing other people's busses now could he?

And every budget for at least ten years (including your favorite disbarred, banned from the Supreme Court president Clinton) has reduced the requested funding for flood control. In one case, Clinton threatened to veto it because it didn't include money for "wetlands"...now THAT is ironic.

Got all the wetlands you need now, huh?

Posted by: CSC5502D | Sep 5, 2005 2:47:10 AM

You know what you guys better throw the term compasionate conservative out in the dung heap with the rest of the bull shit. I think you would be singing a wholly different tune if you could put your self in some one elses shoes who was a citizen of New Orleans looking for leadership and frankly If the Mayor had not gotten on the radio and chewed your whipping boy of a president a new one in front of the whole world nothing would have happend. You know you missed the point. Even if the mayor fucked up (and I don't know that he did given the circumstances) So what. Why so what? The destruction you are bearing witness to is entirely analog to the worst possible terrorist attack. And we have spent billions of dollars to be prepared. You want to know what I am doing right now (in between blogging) I'm repacking the,"Oh shit," kits for my family because its all to clear we ARE on our own. You guys don't like facing the truth. In reality its not the President himself who allowed this to happen, its the ideology that he has embraced and represents. Conservativism is based on an everyman for himself attitude coupled with a how do we tell the consumer only what he/she needs to know to buy the product, "who cares if its not good for them or society we're gonna profit"
Well you know what there no market here for what you guys are selling, how can we buy ourselves? and how can you sell your family?

Posted by: Billion Year Old Carbon | Sep 5, 2005 3:08:10 AM

CSC5502D,

Its all Clinton's fault? Give it a rest Bush is in his second term and has had every chance to fix whatever it is Clinton supposedly fucked up. Give it a rest.

And for fucks sake stop with the Nagin bus shit. The hurricane is one thing, as Rumsfeld so pointedly put it "stuff happens." But after the levee broke how fast do you think the city filled up? "Quick everyone. to your buses!!!"

They were poor, they were without cars, they stayed to protect what little they had and they had no money to stay outside the city!!!

This has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with the widening gap of class's in this country!! And your president and your ownership fucking society proves that.

The op-ed in the NYT's compared this to this being FEMA's Titanic. All of the rich and to-do's got the life boats while the people on the lower decks were left to fend for themselves and drown!

WAY TO GO BUSHY BOY......NOW RESIGN!!!

Posted by: The Bastard | Sep 5, 2005 6:12:35 AM

always seem to be behind the Bastard, not sure what that means.

Blaming this on big government in general is just stupid. On this government is smart thinking.

When in doubt blame it on Bill. Doesn't wash anymore. I will add to what TB said; Bill was probably the best president of the 20th century. Had he been given a chance he would have taken us down a garden road filled with opportuntities and good health care

instead it took the worst possible scenario to wake people up.

Even Nixon knew when he had crossed that line from merely crooked to intently criminal.

But Bush is intent on not learning from history. If he perceives himself as better than Nixon and beloved by the people, he better get into that asylum quickly.

If he doesn't resign because his overblown ego won't let him, full investigation immediatly, with no allowing Bush to nominate and walk Supreme Court justices into office

Posted by: pia | Sep 5, 2005 9:20:23 AM

LOL The Bastard, no wonder you guys keep losing elections.

It's all Bush's fault because he's had five years to fix what Clinton didn't do in eight? ROFLMAO! Only a total boob could come up with logic like that. Clinton escapes all blame, even though he had every chance to fix it FIRST, because Bush didn't fix it LATER. LOL!

By the way, how could they get out after the flood started? They couldn't. Duh.

And if Nagin had followed the evacuation plan, they wouldn't have had to. The buses and all those people both would have been LONG gone before the flood ever started.

Nice try.

Posted by: CSC5502D | Sep 6, 2005 6:09:53 PM

CSC55020, though I agree the thread here seems to point the finger at Bush all too easily, placing the blame on Clinton is getting old. I also agree that there have been ample opportunities to repair and improve the Gulf coast levee system over the last 20 years, but we can certainly make it easy on ourselves to sling mud at the current head of state.

But, if blame must be assigned, let's be fair and spread it around. Gov. Blanco had ample time to react and did not. She also turned this into a partisan thing instead of giving control of the Louisiana National Guard when she could've. She never allowed or forced mandatory evacuations despite the President's declaration of a State of Emergency. Nagin also had ample opportunity to implement a plan and failed.

Why is it so important to blame Bush? I can tell you, if this happened where I live, no one here is waiting on Washington to prepare or react.

Posted by: Dogroe | Sep 7, 2005 2:16:00 AM

"Dogroe" How can Blanco call in the Louisaina national guard. When 1/3 of there forces are in Iraq. BAGHDAD, Sept. 1 -- The 3,700 Louisiana National Guard members in Iraq will begin heading home within about a week as part of normal troop rotations, but there are no mass Guard movements back to the United States planned to aid hurricane relief, U.S. military officials in Baghdad said Thursday.

This is an indicator of how few Louisiana national guard are left in Louisiana. "Wisconsin agreed Wednesday to send 500 Guard troops to Louisiana to help make up for the shortfall." From a Military view, When other states have send there soliders to help your state, You know your state is lacking in manpower.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/01/AR2005090101661.html


Posted by: john | Sep 7, 2005 3:16:20 AM

Bastard would you please re-open your previous post and address this for me. Please re-post this at the top of your blog so we may re-address your post please. Seem's like only the fair and balanced thing to do at this point with the new information that is out there. We all know how you want the true story/facts presented correctly especially when a "mistake" has been made. Thank you for your co-operation in this matter. Just wondering why you "Can't Spin" this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9368952

An emotional moment and a misunderstanding
Story of a mother’s desperate calls from nursing home skewed

•‘She drowned Friday night’
Sept. 4: Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish, La., breaks down while telling NBC's Tim Russert the story of the death of the mother of one of the parish’s employees.
Meet the Press


MSNBC and NBC News
Updated: 10:55 a.m. ET Sept. 19, 2005
WASHINGTON - The Jefferson Parish president's emotional retelling of a mother's desperate calls from a New Orleans nursing home included details that conflict with the timeline of the tragedy.

The story, of a colleague's mother begging her son for rescue as flood waters rose after Hurricane Katrina, came to prominence on Sunday, Sept. 4, when Aaron Broussard, president of Jefferson Parish in New Orleans, was interviewed by Tim Russert on NBC's Meet the Press. (MSNBC is a Microsoft-NBC joint venture.)

New details and interviews with the son whose mother died in the flood show that the tragedy unfolded from Saturday through Monday, Aug. 29 — not Monday through Friday, Sept. 2 as recounted by Broussard. The owners of the nursing home were indicted Tuesday for the deaths of more than 30 residents, which officials say occurred on Aug. 29.

In the course of the interview, in which Broussard was expressing frustration with the slow-footed response by the federal government to the hurricane, he related the personal story of a man whose mother had died in the flooding caused by Katrina. Broussard, who did not identify the man by name at the time, broke down in tears as he related the story. As the Meet the Press transcript shows, Russert paused the interview to allow Broussard to compose himself.

BROUSSARD: ... The guy who runs this building I'm in, emergency management, he's responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, "Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?" And he said, "Yeah, Mama, somebody's coming to get you. Somebody's coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody's coming to get you on Friday." And she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night.

RUSSERT: Mr. President...

BROUSSARD: Nobody's coming to get us. Nobody's coming to get us. The secretary has promised. Everybody's promised. They've had press conferences. I'm sick of the press conferences. For God sakes, shut up and send us somebody.

RUSSERT: Just take a pause, Mr. President. While you gather yourself in your very emotional times, I understand, let me go to Governor Haley Barbour of Mississippi.

Since the broadcast of the interview, which elevated Broussard to national prominence, a number of bloggers have questioned the validity of Broussard’s story.

Subsequent reporting identified the man whom Broussard was referring to in the Meet the Press interview as Thomas Rodrigue, the Jefferson Parish emergency services director. Contacted on Friday by MSNBC.com, Rodrigue acknowledged that his 92-year-old mother and more than 30 other people died in the St. Rita nursing home. They had not been evacuated and the flood waters overtook the residence.

The chronology of the phone calls described by Broussard came under particular scrutiny by bloggers.

Rodrigue said he didn’t see or hear Broussard’s comments on Meet the Press. When told of the sequence of phone calls that Broussard described on Meet the Press, Rodrigue said “No, no, that’s not true.”

“I can’t tell you what he said that day, why he was confused, I’m assuming he was under a tremendous amount of pressure,” Rodrigue told MSNBC.

“I contacted the nursing home two days before the storm [on Aug. 27th] and again on the 28th of August,” Rodrigue said. “At the same time I talked to the nursing home I also talked to the emergency manager for St. Bernard Parish,” Rodrigue said, “to encourage that nursing home to evacuate like they were supposed to and they didn’t until it was too late.”

Broussard must have been confused “because I was calling, not my mother calling me, I was calling her,” Rodrigue said. Further, Rodrigue says he never made any calls after Monday, the day he figures his mother died, based on conversations he’s had with another person who had a family member perish inside St. Rita’s. Officials believe that the residents of St. Rita’s died on Monday, Aug. 29, not on Friday, Sept. 2, as Broussard had suggested.

Broussard could not be reached for comment Friday, but Jackie Bauer, a spokeswoman for Broussard who was present during the Meet the Press interview, said "it was a misunderstanding."

Late on Friday, Bauer told MSNBC.com: "I was there when he (Broussard) was doing that, when he was saying that, I think he was meaning that he was calling, he was calling and trying to talk to Tommy and telling him ‘don’t worry,' trying to console Tommy, 'don’t worry, we’ll get her out, don’t worry we’ll get her out.'"

When asked how Broussard could have gotten the details of his mother’s story so wrong, Rodrigue said, Broussard “was emotional, absolutely and he was from the time that he found out that, you know, that my mother had died and I was here doing what I’m required to do for the citizens for Jefferson Parish.”

Rodrigue said he hasn’t spoken with Broussard since the Meet the Press broadcast. “He’s been busy, I’ve been busy,” Rodrigue said. “I haven’t really had a chance to sit down and talk to him.”

The husband and wife owners of St. Rita’s nursing home in the New Orleans suburb of Chalmette have been charged with homicide in the case.

“The pathetic thing in this case was that they were asked if they wanted to move them and they did not,” Louisiana Attorney General Charles Foti said Tuesday. “They were warned repeatedly that this storm was coming. In effect, their inaction resulted in the deaths of these people.”

“They had a duty and a standard of care to people who could not care for themselves,” Foti said of the owners. “If you or I decided we are going to stay, we do it of our own free will. ... The people at the nursing home don’t have that choice.”

“Thirty-four people drowned in a nursing home when it should have been evacuated. I cannot say it any plainer than that,” Foti said, his voice rising with anger.

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